The 42-year-old neighborhood institution - known for its live music and Chicago-style comfort food - closed on April 28 for what ownership called "major soundproofing upgrades." According to a representative from operator Social Syndicate, the closure was a proactive effort to reduce sound bleed into the residential apartments above, after years of complaints from at least one, and possibly multiple, tenants. The bar has since installed a new, code-compliant sound-buffering ceiling, which it hopes will allow the venue to bring back some of its signature live performances without sparking renewed backlash.
The renovations come on the heels of a recent liquor license suspension issued by the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC). This follows other municipal code and liquor license violations that took place in 2018, 2020, 2023, and 2024. The recent penalty was imposed following an investigation triggered by complaints about excessive noise, during which officials reportedly recorded sound levels from inside the bar, on the street, and in neighboring units. Officials found those levels to be in violation of state guidelines.
The renovations come on the heels of a recent liquor license suspension issued by the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC). This follows other municipal code and liquor license violations that took place in 2018, 2020, 2023, and 2024. The recent penalty was imposed following an investigation triggered by complaints about excessive noise, during which officials reportedly recorded sound levels from inside the bar, on the street, and in neighboring units. Officials found those levels to be in violation of state guidelines.
Social Syndicate insists it has done everything possible to satisfy both the city and the building’s residents. In a message to SanDiegoVille, a representative said the venue was "closing to do the work a second time" and emphasized that the company acted in good faith, starting renovations before the ABC ruling was finalized. "If we weren't being proactive, we would have waited for their ruling before starting the work," one rep stated. "Instead, we started weeks before… and now the ABC suspension doesn't overlap."
Still, upstairs tenants say the issues run deeper. In emails, one resident accused the bar of minimizing its violations and downplaying the scope of the disturbances. The resident - who asked to remain anonymous due to what they claim are fears of retaliation - provided detailed accounts of being woken daily by noise beginning with morning prep and continuing past midnight. They also alleged that bar patrons and staff have harassed them, claiming vandalism, threats, and even a drink special mockingly named "The Idiot Upstairs" appeared on the bar’s social media before being deleted.
For Social Syndicate, which took over operations in 2019, the saga has been frustrating. The group maintains that Rosie’s has long been a lively venue and that they inherited both the noise and the nostalgia.
"That building hosted very loud and very live bands for almost 40 years," one representative told SanDiegoVille. "There was no soundproofing during any of that time and there were no complaints we were ever made aware of." The representative claims the bar kept on the same band booker after taking over - but was later forced to change course as volume complaints escalated.
The reopening marks a pivotal moment in the ongoing conflict. Management says it hopes the new soundproofing will finally satisfy all parties and pave the way for a return to normalcy. Some beloved acts may return to the Rosie’s stage in the near future, but operators say they are "prepared to scale back" again if problems persist. Whether that will be enough remains to be seen.
The bar's battle with residents has highlighted broader issues surrounding mixed-use zoning in San Diego - where nightlife venues and housing often collide, and where city enforcement has sometimes lagged behind growing urban density. For Rosie O’Grady’s, the past year has brought everything from permit battles to state enforcement, allegations of retaliation, and neighbor complaints.
Still, supporters of the venue argue that Rosie’s plays a vital role in the cultural fabric of Normal Heights. Founded in 1983 by Ron Stout, the bar has remained a go-to gathering place for everything from local bands to Chicago Bears games, and for many, its identity is inseparable from the block it calls home. Whether that identity can coexist peacefully with the neighbors above is now the million-dollar question.
Rosie O’Grady's reopens Monday, June 23, at 3402 Adams Avenue. For more information, visit rosieogradyssd.com.
Rosie O'Grady's, a long-standing Irish bar in San Diego's Normal Heights neighborhood, has temporarily closed its doors amid ongoing disputes with upstairs residents regarding excessive noise and alleged permitting violations. The bar, located at 3402 Adams Avenue, began a closure on April 28, 2025, for what ownership describes as "major soundproofing upgrades" in an effort to address continued complaints.
The 42-year-old venue, which has operated under local hospitality group Social Syndicate since 2019, has faced scrutiny in recent years over sound levels attributed to live music performances. Neighbors allege that noise from the bar regularly disrupts life in the apartments above, with one tenant claiming the disturbances occur nightly, beginning with staff arrival in the morning and continuing through late-night closing hours. The tenant says that even casual conversations and music played during the day are audible in their homes.
The complaints, according to city records and resident accounts, triggered multiple investigations. In June 2023, the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) suspended Rosie O'Grady's liquor license for 20 days. That suspension followed an official investigation in which ABC officials reportedly recorded sound levels from inside the bar, on the street, and in the neighboring apartments. Those recordings allegedly confirmed excessive noise levels beyond permissible limits.
Additionally, a complaint to the City of San Diego’s Development Services Department (DSD) led to a finding that previous ceiling work at the bar had been done without proper permits or fire suppression systems. The department reportedly ordered the bar to remove the unpermitted construction and install code-compliant soundproofing. Rosie O’Grady’s management later obtained retroactive permits, and the current closure is intended to complete that required work.
In a statement to SanDiegoVille, a Social Syndicate representative said, "We had some issues with sound. We are addressing them. We’ve been working for months with the city and building owner on a solution. Our goal has always been to keep Rosie’s true to its roots and to make everyone happy." The company says it has already limited or canceled some long-running live music performances in response to the concerns.
While Social Syndicate maintains that only one tenant has consistently lodged complaints, residents allege the issue is more widespread. At least two formal complaints were filed with the city, and multiple residents from surrounding units claim to be affected. One resident, who asked to remain anonymous due to fears of retaliation, said that prior efforts by the building’s landlord to mediate the situation had failed. That resident also claims to have experienced harassment and threats for speaking out.
Allegations against the bar and its staff include reported vandalism, threats of retaliation, and the use of social media to mock complaining tenants - including a now-deleted drink special allegedly named "The Idiot Upstairs". Social Syndicate denies wrongdoing and insists it has been cooperative with all official investigations. Ownership also claimed that previous complaints triggered an unexpected review process, requiring them to undo earlier work and start over.
Rosie O'Grady's was originally founded in 1983 by Ron Stout and became known for its Chicago-inspired food menu, festive Irish pub atmosphere, and regular live music. Social Syndicate has attempted to preserve that identity, but acknowledges the challenges of operating beneath residential units. The company says it hopes the new ceiling and soundproofing measures will allow the return of some live performances, but they are prepared to scale back if necessary to maintain peace with the tenants.
The situation has also reignited debate over urban planning and mixed-use zoning in San Diego, where entertainment venues and residential housing frequently overlap. While residents emphasize the right to quiet enjoyment under California rental laws, supporters of the bar cite its cultural legacy and role as a neighborhood gathering spot.
Rosie O'Grady’s is expected to reopen in late May or early June 2025. As of publication, the bar had not yet obtained all required permits listed on the city’s DSD website. The outcome of ongoing investigations by ABC, the San Diego Police Department, and other agencies may also impact future operations.
For more information or updates, visit rosieogradyssd.com.
Rosie O’Grady's, a longtime fixture of San Diego's Normal Heights, is once again at the center of neighborhood tensions as it undergoes a temporary closure to complete major soundproofing upgrades. But according to residents living above the bar, the situation goes deeper than previously reported - with allegations of persistent noise issues, delayed permitting, and concerns over building safety.
The 42-year-old Chicago-style Irish bar, operated by local hospitality group Social Syndicate since 2019, began a closure on April 28 to address complaints about excessive sound bleeding into nearby apartments. While Social Syndicate initially framed the situation as a proactive move to improve acoustics and satisfy community concerns, frustrated neighbors argue the problems were severe and longstanding.
In June 2023, Rosie O'Grady’s liquor license was suspended for 20 days by the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) - not simply due to "allegations," as previously reported, but after a formal investigation that included sound recordings taken inside the bar, outside on the street, and in neighboring apartments. The ABC's findings confirmed excessive noise levels well beyond acceptable limits, leading directly to the suspension.
The bar also faced action from the City of San Diego’s Development Services Department (DSD). After neighbors filed complaints, a city inspection found Rosie O’Grady’s had completed work on its ceiling without proper permits or code compliance. Inspectors flagged significant safety concerns, including missing fire suppression systems that, according to the DSD report, could have left upstairs apartments vulnerable in the event of a fire. Social Syndicate ultimately secured retroactive permits and began corrective construction only after city intervention.
Multiple residents have reported being affected by noise, not just one neighbor as previously suggested. At least two formal complaints were filed with the city, and residents of several apartments directly above and adjacent to the bar have expressed ongoing frustration over noise levels disrupting their quality of life. Some residents have even reported threats of retaliation after speaking out publicly.
In a message to SanDiegoVille, neighbor Michael Thompson emphasized, "The bar only brought things up to code after being caught. There was no effort beforehand to address building safety or respect the people living above. We aren't against good times - we are against businesses cutting corners at the expense of others."
Despite tensions, Rosie O’Grady’s remains an important piece of Normal Heights’ history. Founded by Ron Stout in 1983, the venue built its reputation on live music, a Chicago-style menu, and a festive Irish pub atmosphere. Social Syndicate preserved much of that legacy after acquiring the bar, maintaining traditions like live bands while expanding its food offerings. However, the realities of operating a lively bar directly beneath residential units have proven difficult to balance.
Social Syndicate has vowed to resolve the soundproofing issues once and for all during this current closure, installing a fully reconstructed, code-compliant ceiling designed to limit noise transmission and restore peace with neighbors.
Rosie O’Grady’s is expected to reopen at 3402 Adams Avenue sometime in late May or early June 2025. The situation offers a cautionary tale about the challenges of running entertainment venues in increasingly dense urban neighborhoods, where vibrant nightlife must coexist with residential needs.
For updates, visit rosieogradyssd.com.
CONVERSATION WITH SOCIAL SYNDICATE REPRESENTATIVE:
Closed today to soundproof the ceiling. [email protected] There's not much more to is. There were some complaints about the sound so this is the solution everyone agreed upon.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 2:27 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, To it *, Monday, April 28 2025, 2:27 PM.
To it *
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 2:59 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, I read your report. There is one individual we are aware of who has complained about the sound. We are doing everything we can to get the sound fixed and here we are. Closing to do the work a second time. We have been working for months with the building owner and the city to find a solution that will meet the needs of everyone involved. In the meantime we have been limiting the live performances that we allow. Sadly, that has included discontinuing some of the acts that have been there for years. We will continue to do everything we can to make everyone happy. That has always been our goal and always will be. It's no fun but we will get through it., Monday, April 28 2025, 2:59 PM.
I read your report. There is one individual we are aware of who has complained about the sound. We are doing everything we can to get the sound fixed and here we are. Closing to do the work a second time. We have been working for months with the building owner and the city to find a solution that will meet the needs of everyone involved. In the meantime we have been limiting the live performances that we allow. Sadly, that has included discontinuing some of the acts that have been there for years. We will continue to do everything we can to make everyone happy. That has always been our goal and always will be. It's no fun but we will get through it.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:03 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, Now would you care for something off the record?, Monday, April 28 2025, 3:03 PM.
Now would you care for something off the record?
Mon 3:03 PM
Message from you, Yes sir. I don't know if I'm publishing about Rosie O'Gradys., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:03 PM.
Yes sir. I don't know if I'm publishing about Rosie O'Gradys.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:24 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, If I look at it from an outside perspective: That building hosted very loud and very live bands for almost 40 years before social syndicate took the reins. There was no sound proofing during any of that time and there were no complaints that we were ever made aware of. It was know as the place for loud bands and parties a few times a week. We thought we were doing right by carrying on that tradition. We never dreamed the opposite would come true. That was always the goal and the promise. To keep Rosie's true to Rosie's. The moment social syndicate took over. The same bands were suddenly too loud and it didn't matter what the manager did to try and bring the volume down. I know they were the same bands because we kept the same guy onboard to handle all the bookings as the previous owner used. We had to stop using him of course. We can't be loud anymore so we couldn't use all those bands. It's true. The team did jump on it immediately and try adding layers of soundproofing but when the formal complaint hit. We were forced to remove that layer, restore the old ceiling and now we are having all the soundproofing installed for a second time. Typically smaller changes like adding a sound barrier don't require a fully permitted plan. I guess when someone makes a formal complaint it triggers a review process. Now we know... We really want to make everyone happy. We hope this work is enough so that the acts that Rosie's was famous for can come back. We are however prepared to operate without those acts should this work still not be enough to make the tenant happy., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:24 PM.
If I look at it from an outside perspective: That building hosted very loud and very live bands for almost 40 years before social syndicate took the reins. There was no sound proofing during any of that time and there were no complaints that we were ever made aware of. It was know as the place for loud bands and parties a few times a week. We thought we were doing right by carrying on that tradition. We never dreamed the opposite would come true. That was always the goal and the promise. To keep Rosie's true to Rosie's. The moment social syndicate took over. The same bands were suddenly too loud and it didn't matter what the manager did to try and bring the volume down. I know they were the same bands because we kept the same guy onboard to handle all the bookings as the previous owner used. We had to stop using him of course. We can't be loud anymore so we couldn't use all those bands. It's true. The team did jump on it immediately and try adding layers of soundproofing but when the formal complaint hit. We were forced to remove that layer, restore the old ceiling and now we are having all the soundproofing installed for a second time. Typically smaller changes like adding a sound barrier don't require a fully permitted plan. I guess when someone makes a formal complaint it triggers a review process. Now we know... We really want to make everyone happy. We hope this work is enough so that the acts that Rosie's was famous for can come back. We are however prepared to operate without those acts should this work still not be enough to make the tenant happy.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:28 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, It's been a nightmare to deal with but we are trying., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:28 PM.
It's been a nightmare to deal with but we are trying.
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, At one point we did receive a letter demanding payment and the complaints go away. That's obviously not a realistic solution... We've heard other tenants tell us that one of the tenants tells them all to complain so that the landlord won't raise their rent. We heard that one tenant offered the upset tenant the option to switch units because hers apparently had no sound issues. The upset tenant said no to the offer. There's been so much said and so many rumors. It's been a wild ride. We are just praying that the work being done finally solves everything and we can get past this. There's no point dwelling. We just want to keep our promise to the neighborhood and keep Rosie's going for another 40 years. The goal was always about the long history and keeping with tradition. It wasn't about making a bunch of money. It was about preserving a piece of Normal Height's. We are still doing everything we can to make that happen., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:45 PM.
At one point we did receive a letter demanding payment and the complaints go away. That's obviously not a realistic solution... We've heard other tenants tell us that one of the tenants tells them all to complain so that the landlord won't raise their rent. We heard that one tenant offered the upset tenant the option to switch units because hers apparently had no sound issues. The upset tenant said no to the offer. There's been so much said and so many rumors. It's been a wild ride. We are just praying that the work being done finally solves everything and we can get past this. There's no point dwelling. We just want to keep our promise to the neighborhood and keep Rosie's going for another 40 years. The goal was always about the long history and keeping with tradition. It wasn't about making a bunch of money. It was about preserving a piece of Normal Height's. We are still doing everything we can to make that happen.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:45 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, We really do want to make everyone happy and so does the building owner., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:45 PM.
We really do want to make everyone happy and so does the building owner.
Mon 3:51 PM
Message from you, Is it Michael?, Monday, April 28 2025, 3:51 PM.
Is it Michael?
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 4:35 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, I could find out their name but there's really no point in revisiting any of it. We have nothing to gain by it. The person complained; Now we have to close down and put back in the soundproofing we were forced to remove. The lawyers handled all the details. We just waited to be handed a resolution and now we are following it. We are trying to stay positive about the whole process. Hopefully this work makes all parties happy. Especially the staff who can't work their job until the work is finished and rosies can reopen. It's been a total nightmare but we wish everyone involved nothing but the best., Monday, April 28 2025, 4:35 PM.
I could find out their name but there's really no point in revisiting any of it. We have nothing to gain by it. The person complained; Now we have to close down and put back in the soundproofing we were forced to remove. The lawyers handled all the details. We just waited to be handed a resolution and now we are following it. We are trying to stay positive about the whole process. Hopefully this work makes all parties happy. Especially the staff who can't work their job until the work is finished and rosies can reopen. It's been a total nightmare but we wish everyone involved nothing but the best.
The reopening marks a pivotal moment in the ongoing conflict. Management says it hopes the new soundproofing will finally satisfy all parties and pave the way for a return to normalcy. Some beloved acts may return to the Rosie’s stage in the near future, but operators say they are "prepared to scale back" again if problems persist. Whether that will be enough remains to be seen.
The bar's battle with residents has highlighted broader issues surrounding mixed-use zoning in San Diego - where nightlife venues and housing often collide, and where city enforcement has sometimes lagged behind growing urban density. For Rosie O’Grady’s, the past year has brought everything from permit battles to state enforcement, allegations of retaliation, and neighbor complaints.
Still, supporters of the venue argue that Rosie’s plays a vital role in the cultural fabric of Normal Heights. Founded in 1983 by Ron Stout, the bar has remained a go-to gathering place for everything from local bands to Chicago Bears games, and for many, its identity is inseparable from the block it calls home. Whether that identity can coexist peacefully with the neighbors above is now the million-dollar question.
Rosie O’Grady's reopens Monday, June 23, at 3402 Adams Avenue. For more information, visit rosieogradyssd.com.
The 42-year-old venue, which has operated under local hospitality group Social Syndicate since 2019, has faced scrutiny in recent years over sound levels attributed to live music performances. Neighbors allege that noise from the bar regularly disrupts life in the apartments above, with one tenant claiming the disturbances occur nightly, beginning with staff arrival in the morning and continuing through late-night closing hours. The tenant says that even casual conversations and music played during the day are audible in their homes.
The complaints, according to city records and resident accounts, triggered multiple investigations. In June 2023, the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) suspended Rosie O'Grady's liquor license for 20 days. That suspension followed an official investigation in which ABC officials reportedly recorded sound levels from inside the bar, on the street, and in the neighboring apartments. Those recordings allegedly confirmed excessive noise levels beyond permissible limits.
Additionally, a complaint to the City of San Diego’s Development Services Department (DSD) led to a finding that previous ceiling work at the bar had been done without proper permits or fire suppression systems. The department reportedly ordered the bar to remove the unpermitted construction and install code-compliant soundproofing. Rosie O’Grady’s management later obtained retroactive permits, and the current closure is intended to complete that required work.
In a statement to SanDiegoVille, a Social Syndicate representative said, "We had some issues with sound. We are addressing them. We’ve been working for months with the city and building owner on a solution. Our goal has always been to keep Rosie’s true to its roots and to make everyone happy." The company says it has already limited or canceled some long-running live music performances in response to the concerns.
While Social Syndicate maintains that only one tenant has consistently lodged complaints, residents allege the issue is more widespread. At least two formal complaints were filed with the city, and multiple residents from surrounding units claim to be affected. One resident, who asked to remain anonymous due to fears of retaliation, said that prior efforts by the building’s landlord to mediate the situation had failed. That resident also claims to have experienced harassment and threats for speaking out.
Allegations against the bar and its staff include reported vandalism, threats of retaliation, and the use of social media to mock complaining tenants - including a now-deleted drink special allegedly named "The Idiot Upstairs". Social Syndicate denies wrongdoing and insists it has been cooperative with all official investigations. Ownership also claimed that previous complaints triggered an unexpected review process, requiring them to undo earlier work and start over.
Rosie O'Grady's was originally founded in 1983 by Ron Stout and became known for its Chicago-inspired food menu, festive Irish pub atmosphere, and regular live music. Social Syndicate has attempted to preserve that identity, but acknowledges the challenges of operating beneath residential units. The company says it hopes the new ceiling and soundproofing measures will allow the return of some live performances, but they are prepared to scale back if necessary to maintain peace with the tenants.
The situation has also reignited debate over urban planning and mixed-use zoning in San Diego, where entertainment venues and residential housing frequently overlap. While residents emphasize the right to quiet enjoyment under California rental laws, supporters of the bar cite its cultural legacy and role as a neighborhood gathering spot.
Rosie O'Grady’s is expected to reopen in late May or early June 2025. As of publication, the bar had not yet obtained all required permits listed on the city’s DSD website. The outcome of ongoing investigations by ABC, the San Diego Police Department, and other agencies may also impact future operations.
For more information or updates, visit rosieogradyssd.com.
Rosie O’Grady's, a longtime fixture of San Diego's Normal Heights, is once again at the center of neighborhood tensions as it undergoes a temporary closure to complete major soundproofing upgrades. But according to residents living above the bar, the situation goes deeper than previously reported - with allegations of persistent noise issues, delayed permitting, and concerns over building safety.
The 42-year-old Chicago-style Irish bar, operated by local hospitality group Social Syndicate since 2019, began a closure on April 28 to address complaints about excessive sound bleeding into nearby apartments. While Social Syndicate initially framed the situation as a proactive move to improve acoustics and satisfy community concerns, frustrated neighbors argue the problems were severe and longstanding.
In June 2023, Rosie O'Grady’s liquor license was suspended for 20 days by the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) - not simply due to "allegations," as previously reported, but after a formal investigation that included sound recordings taken inside the bar, outside on the street, and in neighboring apartments. The ABC's findings confirmed excessive noise levels well beyond acceptable limits, leading directly to the suspension.
The bar also faced action from the City of San Diego’s Development Services Department (DSD). After neighbors filed complaints, a city inspection found Rosie O’Grady’s had completed work on its ceiling without proper permits or code compliance. Inspectors flagged significant safety concerns, including missing fire suppression systems that, according to the DSD report, could have left upstairs apartments vulnerable in the event of a fire. Social Syndicate ultimately secured retroactive permits and began corrective construction only after city intervention.
Multiple residents have reported being affected by noise, not just one neighbor as previously suggested. At least two formal complaints were filed with the city, and residents of several apartments directly above and adjacent to the bar have expressed ongoing frustration over noise levels disrupting their quality of life. Some residents have even reported threats of retaliation after speaking out publicly.
In a message to SanDiegoVille, neighbor Michael Thompson emphasized, "The bar only brought things up to code after being caught. There was no effort beforehand to address building safety or respect the people living above. We aren't against good times - we are against businesses cutting corners at the expense of others."
Despite tensions, Rosie O’Grady’s remains an important piece of Normal Heights’ history. Founded by Ron Stout in 1983, the venue built its reputation on live music, a Chicago-style menu, and a festive Irish pub atmosphere. Social Syndicate preserved much of that legacy after acquiring the bar, maintaining traditions like live bands while expanding its food offerings. However, the realities of operating a lively bar directly beneath residential units have proven difficult to balance.
Social Syndicate has vowed to resolve the soundproofing issues once and for all during this current closure, installing a fully reconstructed, code-compliant ceiling designed to limit noise transmission and restore peace with neighbors.
Rosie O’Grady’s is expected to reopen at 3402 Adams Avenue sometime in late May or early June 2025. The situation offers a cautionary tale about the challenges of running entertainment venues in increasingly dense urban neighborhoods, where vibrant nightlife must coexist with residential needs.
For updates, visit rosieogradyssd.com.
CONVERSATION WITH SOCIAL SYNDICATE REPRESENTATIVE:
Closed today to soundproof the ceiling. [email protected] There's not much more to is. There were some complaints about the sound so this is the solution everyone agreed upon.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 2:27 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, To it *, Monday, April 28 2025, 2:27 PM.
To it *
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 2:59 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, I read your report. There is one individual we are aware of who has complained about the sound. We are doing everything we can to get the sound fixed and here we are. Closing to do the work a second time. We have been working for months with the building owner and the city to find a solution that will meet the needs of everyone involved. In the meantime we have been limiting the live performances that we allow. Sadly, that has included discontinuing some of the acts that have been there for years. We will continue to do everything we can to make everyone happy. That has always been our goal and always will be. It's no fun but we will get through it., Monday, April 28 2025, 2:59 PM.
I read your report. There is one individual we are aware of who has complained about the sound. We are doing everything we can to get the sound fixed and here we are. Closing to do the work a second time. We have been working for months with the building owner and the city to find a solution that will meet the needs of everyone involved. In the meantime we have been limiting the live performances that we allow. Sadly, that has included discontinuing some of the acts that have been there for years. We will continue to do everything we can to make everyone happy. That has always been our goal and always will be. It's no fun but we will get through it.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:03 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, Now would you care for something off the record?, Monday, April 28 2025, 3:03 PM.
Now would you care for something off the record?
Mon 3:03 PM
Message from you, Yes sir. I don't know if I'm publishing about Rosie O'Gradys., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:03 PM.
Yes sir. I don't know if I'm publishing about Rosie O'Gradys.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:24 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, If I look at it from an outside perspective: That building hosted very loud and very live bands for almost 40 years before social syndicate took the reins. There was no sound proofing during any of that time and there were no complaints that we were ever made aware of. It was know as the place for loud bands and parties a few times a week. We thought we were doing right by carrying on that tradition. We never dreamed the opposite would come true. That was always the goal and the promise. To keep Rosie's true to Rosie's. The moment social syndicate took over. The same bands were suddenly too loud and it didn't matter what the manager did to try and bring the volume down. I know they were the same bands because we kept the same guy onboard to handle all the bookings as the previous owner used. We had to stop using him of course. We can't be loud anymore so we couldn't use all those bands. It's true. The team did jump on it immediately and try adding layers of soundproofing but when the formal complaint hit. We were forced to remove that layer, restore the old ceiling and now we are having all the soundproofing installed for a second time. Typically smaller changes like adding a sound barrier don't require a fully permitted plan. I guess when someone makes a formal complaint it triggers a review process. Now we know... We really want to make everyone happy. We hope this work is enough so that the acts that Rosie's was famous for can come back. We are however prepared to operate without those acts should this work still not be enough to make the tenant happy., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:24 PM.
If I look at it from an outside perspective: That building hosted very loud and very live bands for almost 40 years before social syndicate took the reins. There was no sound proofing during any of that time and there were no complaints that we were ever made aware of. It was know as the place for loud bands and parties a few times a week. We thought we were doing right by carrying on that tradition. We never dreamed the opposite would come true. That was always the goal and the promise. To keep Rosie's true to Rosie's. The moment social syndicate took over. The same bands were suddenly too loud and it didn't matter what the manager did to try and bring the volume down. I know they were the same bands because we kept the same guy onboard to handle all the bookings as the previous owner used. We had to stop using him of course. We can't be loud anymore so we couldn't use all those bands. It's true. The team did jump on it immediately and try adding layers of soundproofing but when the formal complaint hit. We were forced to remove that layer, restore the old ceiling and now we are having all the soundproofing installed for a second time. Typically smaller changes like adding a sound barrier don't require a fully permitted plan. I guess when someone makes a formal complaint it triggers a review process. Now we know... We really want to make everyone happy. We hope this work is enough so that the acts that Rosie's was famous for can come back. We are however prepared to operate without those acts should this work still not be enough to make the tenant happy.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:28 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, It's been a nightmare to deal with but we are trying., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:28 PM.
It's been a nightmare to deal with but we are trying.
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, At one point we did receive a letter demanding payment and the complaints go away. That's obviously not a realistic solution... We've heard other tenants tell us that one of the tenants tells them all to complain so that the landlord won't raise their rent. We heard that one tenant offered the upset tenant the option to switch units because hers apparently had no sound issues. The upset tenant said no to the offer. There's been so much said and so many rumors. It's been a wild ride. We are just praying that the work being done finally solves everything and we can get past this. There's no point dwelling. We just want to keep our promise to the neighborhood and keep Rosie's going for another 40 years. The goal was always about the long history and keeping with tradition. It wasn't about making a bunch of money. It was about preserving a piece of Normal Height's. We are still doing everything we can to make that happen., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:45 PM.
At one point we did receive a letter demanding payment and the complaints go away. That's obviously not a realistic solution... We've heard other tenants tell us that one of the tenants tells them all to complain so that the landlord won't raise their rent. We heard that one tenant offered the upset tenant the option to switch units because hers apparently had no sound issues. The upset tenant said no to the offer. There's been so much said and so many rumors. It's been a wild ride. We are just praying that the work being done finally solves everything and we can get past this. There's no point dwelling. We just want to keep our promise to the neighborhood and keep Rosie's going for another 40 years. The goal was always about the long history and keeping with tradition. It wasn't about making a bunch of money. It was about preserving a piece of Normal Height's. We are still doing everything we can to make that happen.
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 3:45 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, We really do want to make everyone happy and so does the building owner., Monday, April 28 2025, 3:45 PM.
We really do want to make everyone happy and so does the building owner.
Mon 3:51 PM
Message from you, Is it Michael?, Monday, April 28 2025, 3:51 PM.
Is it Michael?
(941) 724-1159 • Mon 4:35 PM
Message from 9 4 1 7 2 4 1 1 5 9, I could find out their name but there's really no point in revisiting any of it. We have nothing to gain by it. The person complained; Now we have to close down and put back in the soundproofing we were forced to remove. The lawyers handled all the details. We just waited to be handed a resolution and now we are following it. We are trying to stay positive about the whole process. Hopefully this work makes all parties happy. Especially the staff who can't work their job until the work is finished and rosies can reopen. It's been a total nightmare but we wish everyone involved nothing but the best., Monday, April 28 2025, 4:35 PM.
I could find out their name but there's really no point in revisiting any of it. We have nothing to gain by it. The person complained; Now we have to close down and put back in the soundproofing we were forced to remove. The lawyers handled all the details. We just waited to be handed a resolution and now we are following it. We are trying to stay positive about the whole process. Hopefully this work makes all parties happy. Especially the staff who can't work their job until the work is finished and rosies can reopen. It's been a total nightmare but we wish everyone involved nothing but the best.
For Rosie's. It's not big deal at all. Just wanted to point out:
That the ABC finalized their ruling as a result of a certain persons noise complaints. It proves we were being proactive on finding a solution to the sound.
If we weren't being proactive. We would have drag our feet and waited for their ruling before starting the work on the new sound proofing. Then we could have shut down at the same time that the ABC is making us close.
Instead we started weeks before the ruling came through and now the ABC suspension doesn't overlap. So we took the high road and got to working on the new ceilings the moment the contractor was ready with permits.
Tomorrow ABC will come post about it and our countdown starts. We could have waited to start the work tomorrow or in 3 months if that's when the ruling came through but we got ahead of it.
Getting ahead of it while the right thing to do. It's going to result in us being closed longer than we would have been if we waited for the ABC.
Quite the opposite of what that person was saying about us.
That's all.
EMAIL FROM COMPLAINING TENANT:
Hi again,
I wrote to you about this at the time of the last closure.
I would have commented on social media but I see that option is not available any longer.
Just to clear up some inaccuracies in the article...
"allegations of excessive noise" is not correct. The ABC does not close a bar because of allegations.
The ABC investigated, took recordings both inside and outside of the bar and in one of the the apartments above.
The response of Social Syndicate that they had permits and the bar was up to code is misleading. They only got permits and brought it up to code after a complaint was lodged with the San Diego agency responsible for permits and code. You published the CPNO ordering them to get permits and correct the poorly installed, firetrap ceiling. The CPNO noted that the fire suppression required was missing. Had there been a fire the apartments above would have been engulfed quickly.
Finally, the article reads "complaints from 'a' neighbor". This is also misleading. TWO neighbors complained to the DSD and at least five of the apartments directly above and adjacent to the bar have been affected by the excessive noise. The landlord is fully aware of the issue but refuses to intervene, probably because the bar pays much more in rent or they are somehow connected with the BAR owners.
The article is effective in its news-worthy-ness but seems biased to showing the bar in favorable light. The owners were intent on avoiding getting the required permits and only too happy to not do the work correctly and put the residents above in danger just to save some money. Painting a "Rosie" picture of them operating a good time bar that is a local institution is sad.
You were sure to include the names of every one of Social Syndicates's other businesses for some reason. That did not add anything... except free advertising for them.
Just keep in mind when you make it seem like there is some dispute as to wether the bar is at fault you invite trouble for the residents of the nine apartments above. There have been threats of retaliation from some.
I am including a video of noise levels from just last night. This was made in the bedroom. This level continues until midnight. Listen to it on headphones or speakers that can reproduce the levels shown on the meter. Well, don't reproduce them to that actual level because it will hurt your ears.
Michael Thompson
Hi Henry,
First, let me say I am impressed that you are willing to correct the inaccuracies from that article. I appreciate your desire to be fair in your reporting.
Having said that the quote you attributed to me is wrong, please remove it. Not in the ideas expressed just that I did not actually say or write those words.
I DO NOT WANT MY NAME USED IN YOUR ARTICLE. Please do not do that.
I have had my car repeatedly vandalized by a patron of the bar, who I was able to video doing that. Power was shut off to my home and we were threatened with retaliation by an employee of the bar...in social media since deleted. They even posted a drink special called "the idiot upstairs" trying to rile up the patrons against us. I do have a copy of that post captured before they had the chance to delete it. Plus, obviously the owners of the bar are aware of the issue and seem to enjoy torturing us as way of extracting revenge for reporting them to the DSD in 2020.
I am reluctant to give any more information about ongoing investigations or provide information that may not be legal for public consumption. As a reporter I am sure you know how to go about getting freedom of information requests fulfilled. That is how I got the DSD CPNO that you published in your article about the first closure.
The bar has been the subject of past and current ABC, SDPD Vice and San Diego City Attorneys Office investigations.
I will say that other tenants have claimed to me they have complained to the landlord about the noise. I can only speak for myself when I say the landlord refuses to enforce our right to quiet enjoyment which is the law included in every rental agreement. You may wish to contact the landlord, SRM Urban to ask why they support the bar over the residential tenants. They might respond claiming they did a sound check. That was a scam they arranged with the bar owners. They gave the bar owners advanced notice they were being recorded so they simply lowered the volume on the those days. Even so the report noted that the bar might be in violation of the local noise abatement laws.
I imagine the landlord favors the bar because the bar pays much higher rent OR they are somehow connected by other business interests. I suspect the bar owners are rushing to try and fix the issue because they are expected to be closed again soon because of the ongoing investigation. I am not sure how they intend to keep the dates they claim they will be closed as according to the DSD website, they have not yet obtained the needed permits.
Thank you for reaching out for the facts,
Michael Thompson
Hello again Henry,
Please alert me when you intend to publish you updated article. I look forward to reading it. Please remember not to use my name as we fear reprisals.
Hopefully it has not run yet as I wanted to add one more comment.
The responses from the Social Syndicate representatives claimed that they had "some" noise issues and tried to frame it as a minor problem from the past. This is yet another attempt to cover up or minimize their ongoing bad behavior. The excessive noise has been ongoing EVERY SINGLE DAY they are open since they took over operations in 2019. They have been been under investigation by the ABC, SDPD, DSD and others since then. The current closure and repair is obviously in response to the upcoming decision by the ABC to punish them yet again for their CONTINUING bad behavior. That is the ONLY reason they are finally attempting to fix the ceiling. Given the multiple times the ceiling had been reworked I have my doubts it will be done correctly.
The staff generally arrives at 10:30 am to prep for opening. The ceiling they built is so thin we are woken up as we hear them taking the chairs of the tables and can listen to conversations by them. Soon after arrival they put on juke box music. Usually it will be at a loud volume from the closing from 2:00am or often later as the staff usually stayed late to party in the bar. The loud music will then be fairly constant, sometimes lowered when they get a delivery but always increases in volume until closing. If live entertainment is going on it will be at its very loudest. Bands and other live entertainment usually ends around midnight followed by loud juke box music. The volume always increases as the night goes on with a grand finale of increased volume at 1:30am.
EMAIL FROM COMPLAINING TENANT:
Hi again,
I wrote to you about this at the time of the last closure.
I would have commented on social media but I see that option is not available any longer.
Just to clear up some inaccuracies in the article...
"allegations of excessive noise" is not correct. The ABC does not close a bar because of allegations.
The ABC investigated, took recordings both inside and outside of the bar and in one of the the apartments above.
The response of Social Syndicate that they had permits and the bar was up to code is misleading. They only got permits and brought it up to code after a complaint was lodged with the San Diego agency responsible for permits and code. You published the CPNO ordering them to get permits and correct the poorly installed, firetrap ceiling. The CPNO noted that the fire suppression required was missing. Had there been a fire the apartments above would have been engulfed quickly.
Finally, the article reads "complaints from 'a' neighbor". This is also misleading. TWO neighbors complained to the DSD and at least five of the apartments directly above and adjacent to the bar have been affected by the excessive noise. The landlord is fully aware of the issue but refuses to intervene, probably because the bar pays much more in rent or they are somehow connected with the BAR owners.
The article is effective in its news-worthy-ness but seems biased to showing the bar in favorable light. The owners were intent on avoiding getting the required permits and only too happy to not do the work correctly and put the residents above in danger just to save some money. Painting a "Rosie" picture of them operating a good time bar that is a local institution is sad.
You were sure to include the names of every one of Social Syndicates's other businesses for some reason. That did not add anything... except free advertising for them.
Just keep in mind when you make it seem like there is some dispute as to wether the bar is at fault you invite trouble for the residents of the nine apartments above. There have been threats of retaliation from some.
I am including a video of noise levels from just last night. This was made in the bedroom. This level continues until midnight. Listen to it on headphones or speakers that can reproduce the levels shown on the meter. Well, don't reproduce them to that actual level because it will hurt your ears.
Michael Thompson
Hi Henry,
First, let me say I am impressed that you are willing to correct the inaccuracies from that article. I appreciate your desire to be fair in your reporting.
Having said that the quote you attributed to me is wrong, please remove it. Not in the ideas expressed just that I did not actually say or write those words.
I DO NOT WANT MY NAME USED IN YOUR ARTICLE. Please do not do that.
I have had my car repeatedly vandalized by a patron of the bar, who I was able to video doing that. Power was shut off to my home and we were threatened with retaliation by an employee of the bar...in social media since deleted. They even posted a drink special called "the idiot upstairs" trying to rile up the patrons against us. I do have a copy of that post captured before they had the chance to delete it. Plus, obviously the owners of the bar are aware of the issue and seem to enjoy torturing us as way of extracting revenge for reporting them to the DSD in 2020.
I am reluctant to give any more information about ongoing investigations or provide information that may not be legal for public consumption. As a reporter I am sure you know how to go about getting freedom of information requests fulfilled. That is how I got the DSD CPNO that you published in your article about the first closure.
The bar has been the subject of past and current ABC, SDPD Vice and San Diego City Attorneys Office investigations.
I will say that other tenants have claimed to me they have complained to the landlord about the noise. I can only speak for myself when I say the landlord refuses to enforce our right to quiet enjoyment which is the law included in every rental agreement. You may wish to contact the landlord, SRM Urban to ask why they support the bar over the residential tenants. They might respond claiming they did a sound check. That was a scam they arranged with the bar owners. They gave the bar owners advanced notice they were being recorded so they simply lowered the volume on the those days. Even so the report noted that the bar might be in violation of the local noise abatement laws.
I imagine the landlord favors the bar because the bar pays much higher rent OR they are somehow connected by other business interests. I suspect the bar owners are rushing to try and fix the issue because they are expected to be closed again soon because of the ongoing investigation. I am not sure how they intend to keep the dates they claim they will be closed as according to the DSD website, they have not yet obtained the needed permits.
Thank you for reaching out for the facts,
Michael Thompson
Hello again Henry,
Please alert me when you intend to publish you updated article. I look forward to reading it. Please remember not to use my name as we fear reprisals.
Hopefully it has not run yet as I wanted to add one more comment.
The responses from the Social Syndicate representatives claimed that they had "some" noise issues and tried to frame it as a minor problem from the past. This is yet another attempt to cover up or minimize their ongoing bad behavior. The excessive noise has been ongoing EVERY SINGLE DAY they are open since they took over operations in 2019. They have been been under investigation by the ABC, SDPD, DSD and others since then. The current closure and repair is obviously in response to the upcoming decision by the ABC to punish them yet again for their CONTINUING bad behavior. That is the ONLY reason they are finally attempting to fix the ceiling. Given the multiple times the ceiling had been reworked I have my doubts it will be done correctly.
The staff generally arrives at 10:30 am to prep for opening. The ceiling they built is so thin we are woken up as we hear them taking the chairs of the tables and can listen to conversations by them. Soon after arrival they put on juke box music. Usually it will be at a loud volume from the closing from 2:00am or often later as the staff usually stayed late to party in the bar. The loud music will then be fairly constant, sometimes lowered when they get a delivery but always increases in volume until closing. If live entertainment is going on it will be at its very loudest. Bands and other live entertainment usually ends around midnight followed by loud juke box music. The volume always increases as the night goes on with a grand finale of increased volume at 1:30am.
